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Please upgrade your privacy options. They should include and option to block spiders and bots from reading profiles.

Right now, profiles are indexed by Google and other search engines, and they could also be searched by spam-bots looking for people with particular interests.

Please have have an option similar to Facebook -- allowing users the following choices:

* Show profile only to Friends
* Show profile only to other Socializr account holders
* Make profile public (allow indexing in search engines)
Wed 8/13/08
12:23 PM
Along those lines, how about a third privacy level for events: 'Secure' (in distinction from Private or Public), meaning that it can be seen or joined by people who are not invited through socializr, but only if they have a passcode of some kind.

This would make it possible to invite people on a listserv, for example, by sending them the secure link, without opening the event to the general unknown public. Or to invite people using regular e-mail messages or snail mail, which lots of oldster types still regard as a superior ettiquette.
Tue 9/16/08
1:06 PM
Agreed. This is way important. Thu 9/18/08
2:26 PM
Another possibility for an intermediate privacy level might be to define groups within socializr, so that all socializr users with the group affiliation would be able to find an event in a search, or access it by URL. There might be different options for group access, like moderated versus self-defined.

Emily
Thu 9/18/08
7:31 PM
Have any of these suggestions been implemented?

I did not realize that anyone can search proper names in the 'search socializr' toolbar and find your profile. Not to bring up the 'other' site but I think they have an option to make your profile private or to at least limit the amount of information that 'non-friends' can access.
Tue 11/4/08
9:40 AM
Socializr Team
Hi Jessica,

In your 'Privacy Preferences' page (under 'Account') you can set your full name to only be shown to your friends. If you do this, your profile will NOT be searchable under your name, which I think is what you are looking for.

Also, Emily's request for a way to share a secure link to a private event, i.e. on a email list, has been address with the recent 'Private Event URL' feature that does just that.
Fri 11/7/08
12:40 PM
Thanks, Jonathan.

I believe you are referring to the option where we can set full name OR first name and last initial only for 'non-friends'.

I am more concerned with the possibility that if someone were to click on the 'Jessica N' profile, they would they still see all my pictures and events even if they are not a 'friend'. I have not tested this.
Mon 11/10/08
9:08 AM
Socializr Team
You can disable your events showing up on your profile by setting 'Show my upcoming events on my profile page' to 'No' in the privacy preferences page. Mon 11/10/08
11:00 AM
Ok, that is what I've already set it to, but what about profile pictures?

Or how about the profile in general - can that viewed only by friends?Basically, if someone I do not know were to click on my profile name, I want them to see nothing, similar to how facebook or evite works where 'you must add this person to see his/her profile'.

In general, I'm not confident in using this site as the privacy options seem limited and the preferences are not very intuitive.
Mon 11/10/08
11:13 AM
Jonathan ... the privacy options are NOT sophiticated enough. Otherwise, the site is intuitive and easier to use then Evite, but unless you expand your privacy options, I won't be using your site very much.

I've seen old events produced by google searches, which list my e-mail address, picture, and other information. This was not even a public event.

Think this over.

Make the privacy options simple. There should be 'public' events visible to everyone, and 'private' events visible only to invited guests. There should be the option for guests to invite other guests (if the event host allows this).

The 'friends' feature is useless. Don't try to compete with Facebook (which also has event inviations ... if I'd need social networking in combination with event management, I'd use Facebook). But maybe hook up with Facebook, or even think about making socializr a Facebook application.

I want the option to show my name, photo and other pesonal information to show ONLY to those I invite, and it should be simple to choose 'per event' and not hidden in the 'Accounts' menu.

I see you have not changed or evolved the site in a long time. Looks like you are not going anywhere. What happened? Ran out of funding or interest?
Mon 11/17/08
3:05 PM
I have to say I agree, the privacy options should be a little more clear and robust.

That being said, I must say that Socializr HAS been quietly making improvements all over the place. New photo features, private event URL options, just to name a few.

I actually DO find the Friends feature to be quite useful.

(By the way I'm not a Socializr employee and no one paid me to say this.)

But I'm in agreement with the spirit of the original request... the privacy options should be locked-down a bit.
Mon 11/17/08
3:22 PM
Account Cancelled
Events are either Public or Private.

Private events maintain their privacy across the board- the only events you will find indexed by google are public events, which is true for your event 'Private Wine Tasting Party', Reinhard. You'll see by looking in the host options that you set it to public. None of your other events have been indexed by google, unless you are posting from an account we are unaware of.

There is already an option for hosts to allow guests to invite others.

We'll take your suggestion about a fully private profile under consideration, but your point about the site not changing or evolving is a little misguided.
Mon 11/17/08
3:55 PM
Not sure if this is the right place, but since you bring up Public/Private events, how about also removing past public events where I'm not even a guest from my 'Recent Events' section? I tried to remove myself from the guestlist so it won't show up, but of course since I was not ON the list, I cannot be removed.

On the point about giving further consideration on a fully private profile, I strongly support this. As previously stated, this is the deal breaker with this site for me and it appears for others, as well, who care to make this suggestion.
Mon 11/17/08
4:08 PM
Account Cancelled
Jessica-
Any event that shows up under 'Your Recent Events' can be removed by clicking 'Remove me from Guest List' on that event's page.

Your account shows one event in that column, for which you replied 'Yes'.

Are you seeing something different?
Mon 11/17/08
4:20 PM
Yes, I'm seeing:

BIG BLOODY HALLOWEEN BASH Fri, Oct 31, 08
9:00 PM At J4 Photo Studio
Hosted by Mr. Kole and Boris

and

Diez y Ocho de Octobre! Sat, Oct 18, 08
6:00 PM At Cafe Con Leche
Hosted by Christian

I tried to remove myself from both event lists and was not able to since I'm not on the guest list.

Also, I added someone as a friend and she does not show up on my friend list. It's not a big deal but since I went through the 'add as friend' application and got her confirmation via email, I thought it would show up but she still shows up in the 'friends you may know' section.

***

To clarify - this shows up on the main 'events' page for Chicago - so I should stop viewing that and stick with the 'home' link to view 'my recent events' - sorry about the confusion.
Mon 11/17/08
4:24 PM
Larry .. in response: Yes, this particular event was 'public', but this does not mean that I want the entire event information (including my e-mail address) indexed by googlebot and kept on the server indefinitely! Besides, the event was a long time ago -- why can it STILL be found via Google? (Without knowing, I would have expected that you'd remove it from public, indexable servers after the event).

This could be addressed with a checkbox: 'Allow event information to be listed in public search engines', and if unchecked, block all spiders.

What I (and other users) have pointed out (and you don't seem to be listening) is that we want to set privacy in degrees. We want to be able to fine tune this.

Check out Facebook to see what I mean by that. We simply want MORE sophisticated options to select what specific information we are willing to show and what we want to keep private.

The current set of options Sozializr offers is too primitive.

You say: 'Events are either public or private'. That pretty much sums up the problem! You do not allow any degrees in between these two extremes.

Again, please study how Facebook has addressed this. Facebook allows very specific choices about what a user will show to the public and to other users. It worked for them, so you can conclude there is a user need for more sophisticated privacy control.
Mon 11/17/08
4:31 PM
Account Cancelled
Reinhard-
For the time being if you want your event removed from google's index you can change the privacy setting to 'private'. It will take some time for google to reindex our site. You may also want to remove your email address from the page.

Like I said before, we will take your suggestion for more granular privacy options under consideration. Thank you for the feedback.

Cheers,
Larry
Mon 11/17/08
4:45 PM